Junior’s Delicatessen II


The original Junior’s Delicatessen opened near the intersection of Pico and Westwood in West L.A. in 1959.  As explained here, it was a small operation run by the Saul Brothers that mainly sold corned beef and other deli food to go.  But they had a handful of tables and if you wanted to have a sandwich there, one of the brothers would make it and bring it to your table.  It was on Pico, a few blocks east of Westwood.

In 1967, they moved to a new building that was more of a restaurant on Westwood.  Almost instantly, Junior’s became one of great local success stories for that kind of business.  I was a regular customer but I never found the place outstanding.  The corned beef wasn’t as good as Art’s.  The potato salad wasn’t as good as Nate ‘n Al’s.  The chicken soup wasn’t as good as Canter’s and so on. A deli doesn’t have to do all those things well but it ought to do one thing better than everyone else in town.  If Junior’s did, I never ordered it.  (I feel the same way about Factor’s and Jerry’s, though I’m sure commenters here can tell me of many things they’ve loved at all these places.)

What Junior’s had going for it was a good, friendly feel and a great location.  If you had to meet a friend or business associate for lunch in that area, it wasn’t merely the best choice.  It was darn near the only one.  So I went there often and was never unhappy, except sometimes with the bill or the parking lot.  And it did have the main stamp of approval that a deli has to have in Los Angeles: You could sometimes spot Mel Brooks eating there.

Junior’s was such a fixture of the neighborhood that it came as a shock when its closure was announced in December of 2012.  It closed the last day of the year.  What happened?  It depends on who you ask.

Marvin Saul, who founded and ran Junior’s, died near the end of 2011 and control of the business passed to his sons, David and John.  In a newspaper article, David blamed their landlords who were trying to raise the rent and were “not willing to bend” on “a number that we can’t give.”  He cited rising food costs.  In response, the landlords (a firm called Four Corners Investment Co.) blamed the sons.  A spokesperson said that they’d had an excellent working relationship with Marvin Saul and had actually lowered the rent below what Junior’s was contractually obligated to pay, hoping that a declining business could turn around.  When it came time to renew the lease for 2013, the two sides were unable to agree on a number.  The Four Corners people suggested that the sons simply did not have the management skills of the father and that may be so.  It may also be so that the Four Corners folks saw an opportunity to bring in a tenant with better prospects and a willingness to pay the full rental value of the property.

Given that I often felt the food was overpriced and not as good as it should have been, I’m inclined to think that Junior’s best days were in the past. But somehow, maybe because it was a part of my world for so long, I already miss the place and hope that reports of it reopening somewhere else will prove true. If they’d gotten a cut of every business deal made at their tables, the place would still be the gold mine that it was for Sauls in the late sixties through about the nineties.

21 Responses to Junior’s Delicatessen II

  • Sean says:

    Wow! I didn’t know Juniors closed. My mom worked there in the late 70’s and most of the 80’s. I saw so many movie stars there!! Prince, Arnold, Stallone and a few others were always there! Loved that place. My mom wasn’t a fan of Marvin Saul. She complained about him daily. Many memories in that place.

  • Brian Marcus says:

    The bakery side use to be Rancho Music my dad’s store. Bob Hite of Canned Heat was manager before getting record deal. We ate at Juniors in the 60’s and 70’s. Food was great before son’s took over. Those were the days.

  • A Customer who hears things says:

    Rumor has it that Lenny’s will be closing in a week or two. Lenny sold the place a couple of years ago and the new owner isn’t as savvy as Lenny is.

  • Nick Ramus says:

    I lived Jewish Delicatessens! As a young man I learned much of the trade working in some of the best delis in and around LA! There are foods that get into your taste buds and heart memories that never leave! Matzo Ball Soup, kreplach…oh so many vivid memories! I am an Executive Chef Retired, my work sent me all over the world working in major hotels! But my home feelings are in Santa Monica and LA, even the Valley! My favorite job was working the Deli counter slinging Liz and whitefish! I have been longing for Jewish home cooking, Hence my search found me here! I hope Juniors still exists! I may one day return home to see my youth memories revitalized!

  • Brian Gamberg says:

    I am truly delighted to have stumbled upon your website while trying to look up Al Penni’s or Penny’s? In Culver City for some obscure reason. Great Website.

  • Ron Fernberg says:

    Yep, I went to work @ Juniors the in 1960 with Marvin & Eddie Saul on Pico, I learned a valuable trade, Jewish Deli from 2 nice guys! I went there, brought my sons & friends there too. I was just a kid, but, remember it well. Eddie was the nicest guy, Marvin more business!

  • Allen says:

    I can’t imagine, in all the years they were there, that the opportunity to buy that building or another in the same area didn’t come along. So many who lease their business locations get comfortable just throwing rent money down the toilet. If Marvin Saul had bought the building, I’m confident that David & John would still be there today, making tons of money and confident in knowing that their location was secure. If you lease rather than buy–and your location is important to you, BUY IT! If you continue to lease, the rent will keep going up and up and in the end, you’ll have NOTHING to show for all your years of hard work, other than a stack of canceled rent checks.

  • W Benshoof says:

    Had I meal and went to the register to pay. Cashier comes out of the back and says, “Give me a few minutes”. She disappeared into the dining and we could hear here talking from within. A few minutes stretched into twenty and we left without paying. As they say “Time is money”.

  • Ken Simon says:

    I’m glad to hear that a new, better deli has opened in Junior’s place. I didn’t have any sentimental attachment to Junior’s because I was in my thirties by the time I tried it, in or around 2006. At that time, it was terrible. Food was awful, fruit salad had fruit flies drowned in it, the place was looking like it needed a good scrubbing.

  • dina says:

    jrs had the best sweet sour cabbage soup it was $$$$$ but u pay for good yummy food the derby cake omg delish

  • dina says:

    lennys is not jrs im sorry cakes was stale my neice ate thre said food not same if not broken dont fix it

  • Vicki says:

    I enjoyed the food at Junior’s, especially the cabbage soup, cabbage rolls, and blintzes, my go-to items. I have eaten at Lenny’s twice, and I don’t plan to go back. I find the food blah, different from Junior’s and not to my taste. I certainly don’t find it cheaper. I also find the atmosphere blah, as well as the service.

  • Mark Miller says:

    Junior’s, now Lenny’s, is indeed better than ever. Lenny – there really is a Lenny – knows his business, and his careful make-over of what was Junior’s has brought the former into the 21st century, and in this case that’s a good thing. Everything good about Junior’s, the character of the menu particularly, remains, and there’s value added: smarter, more professional service, a smart new interior that evokes the feel of Junior’s but seems cleaner and more comfortable. If you enjoyed going to Junior’s but have not patronized Lenny’s, you’re in for a pleasant experience.

  • Nomad says:

    Juniors had the best cheese blintzes ever! I really miss them. :-(

  • ZB says:

    Oh man the cabbage soup! It was the best on the planet! I’ll miss it.

  • A Marvick says:

    I too miss Junior’s which varied in quality over the years but was always a reasonable value. And I remember I&Joy — and I think C(harles?)Golvin, too, who posted above:-) I too was a high school senior in ’75 (University HS). Increasingly nostalgic, particularly about old L.A. eateries . . .

    A Marvick

  • Ricky Hanson says:

    So sad to see great old restaurants like this close. They not only have yummy food, but they’re full of Hollywood history too.
    Ricky Hanson

  • Andy Powell says:

    The space that was Junior’s is now re-open as Lenny’s Deli. They opened on February 7th. I ate there tonight for the first time, and you know what? I would honestly have to say it’s better — and I say that because they have virtually the same menu but they’ve increased the portions and lowered the prices!!! Not only that, but about 80% of the former employees came back — including Scottish Annie!!! I met Lenny too, and he is very friendly and approachable. Try it out!

  • Andy Powell says:

    >>A deli doesn’t have to do all those things well but it ought to do one thing better than everyone else in town. If Junior’s did, I never ordered it.<<

    Well, I did! There were a few things Junior's did better than other places — their cabbage soup was outstanding, as was their marinated steak, as was their grilled garlic salmon. They also had the best waitress, Scottish Annie.

  • C Golvin says:

    The Westwood Blvd. location wasn’t originally as large as when it closed. There used to be an I&Joy Bagels bordering Junior’s on the south, but eventually Junior’s subsumed it.
    As a high school senior in 1975 I worked at that I&Joy, but I don’t remember when it shut down and Junior’s swallowed the space.

  • Darnell V. Garrett says:

    Often, when heirs “take over” the business, the brand no longer exists as it died with the creator. Junior’s Deli was the fathers brainchild, not the son’s. He understood the mechanics from the ground up because he designed it himself. The sons simply tried to keep it going. The father most likely could have weathered the recession much better than the sons.

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